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I was going to go with the May 26 date, but I could use a little more time. I started content review a few weeks ago, and I'm going to take a "diagnostic" in a few weeks to see where I stand.

So, who's with me?

I'm doing the SN2 schedule as well..only on my 2nd week though. I see some 2-a-days in my near future, haha. Where is everyone else?

I am following the schedule as well for the most part (I modified mine slightly)... I am only only chapter 2 of general chemistry so I have some catching up to do as well!

I took an untimed practice test the day before and I studied the day of the exam before going inside the test center. Read the Kaplan quick sheet in my car from 9-1pm. Took the test at 2pm. I struggle to understand the reasoning people have with these rationalizations about studying... I have studied the night before and day of every test I have ever taken, why would I change things for the MCAT. Just seems silly.

Very true. I'm glad we're on the same page. Many people have told me that it will make me "tired". I will study, but mainly memorize formulas.

They're just trolling us all.

*sigh*:cry:. I'm doing the Kaplan Course and EK...did my first full length and got 6 points above my diagnosis although my diagnosis score was a 15 My Goal Score: only a 30..well, nine more points to go. who else is doing EK?

PS-10 VR-10 BS- 11 - 31R
this was right around my average and i definitely did better on PS than i thought I would (i took the 8 am test). I have a 3.49 GPA and clinical and research experience.
i'm just not sure if i should retake this test or not. i know that second time I'll definitely approach the test differently but do i have a chance with the stats i have?? i'd love some feedback/opinions!

I had a question for the 2pmers. I might not have done so well on the ps section, and given that it was 'easy'. What do you think the curve will be like? Will it be some thing drastic, like if u get 4 wrong ur down to a 11 already or will it be some thing similar to aamc 3's curve. 40/52 = 10 What do u guys think?

Just a note to all:
If you care to post your scores, remember to post whether you took the 8am or 2pm test. Just to put things into perspective.
Or don't. Either way

30 < 30, 31, 32, 33 ....
alligator eats the bigger numbers is how i learned it lol

I hate you.
On my tiny phone screen that looked like an mcat point spread. My heart skipped a beat.

*sigh*:cry:. I'm doing the Kaplan Course and EK...did my first full length and got 6 points above my diagnosis although my diagnosis score was a 15 My Goal Score: only a 30..well, nine more points to go. who else is doing EK?

IMHO, if your scores are that low, you shouldn't be using EK at all.
EK is great for people who have a strong-ish background and need to brush up.
You should use EK for Verbal (strategy and 101) and possibly biology depending on your strengths there. Otherwise, there are better materials for more heavy content review.
Srsly.

Did any of you guys who scored 32+ studied the day before?
I know many people advice not to study - but I still have my doubts.

I studied up to the day before, but the last few days were really light studying and were very specific. For instance, I knew I needed to look at optics.
I've found that there's always one or two little things I pick up the day before that are actually on the test. The main point is to take it easy though.

I think we should all go play some basketball and forget about this.

Agreed.

when you say doing EK, do you mean you are taking the actual course or just simply working on the books they offer? I have been enrolling to Kaplan demand course .. lol.. im done reviewing with the content.....right now I have been trying to go through the EK1001 books 1k questions down, 3k more to go -______-
I think it's very helpful in terms of making sure that you know the content cold

Hey FromtheCoast, we are score twins exactly. I had similar sentiments about the O on the WS. And although, I find Whatyousay's comment about the score reassuring and ****ing hilarious, I was wondering how you felt about scoring that...below average? I like the balance of our score otherwise and think I will be testing my luck in the app. pool this cycle.

It feels pretty bad to be average because I work hard to be above that in most things I do. I suppose if there's a section to be average on, the writing section is the least harmful though.
I've never claimed to be a good writer but I really thought I had done better than that. I had enough time to answer the questions well and completed all the tasks with concrete examples. Perhaps I didn't use enough obscure and pretentious language to make me sound smart. Oh well, I'm not applying for an Ph.D program in English.

I had a question for the 2pmers. I might not have done so well on the ps section, and given that it was 'easy'. What do you think the curve will be like? Will it be some thing drastic, like if u get 4 wrong ur down to a 11 already or will it be some thing similar to aamc 3's curve. 40/52 = 10 What do u guys think?

I thought the PS wasn't bad, but I don't expect the curve to be too much different than usual for this test, or any test really. I'd say a 40/52 will still be a 10.

I bet one of the admins over there was like I bet $10 that if we take the site down for 3 minutes then the kids on SDN will freak.

I'm throwing my hat in as well. Taking the 2pm session since I am not a morning person. I am using TBR and EK 1001. Can anyone suggest a good CBT set for practice? I was told that Princeton's is better than TBR.

Yep, did you read my post a few pages back? 12/12/... 5?
Not PS 12/VR 5/BS 12, which would seem like it could actually happen since verbal seems to be an oddball whereas the two science sections are of similar style, and sciences are more common to each other than they are to verbal.
Clearly I could have missed 3/5ths of the questions, but considering I've never done that poorly on any test in my life (not to mention this was multiple choice and I actually studied for it, which I can't say for a lot of tests) and the lowest BS score I made during practice tests was an 11, this result seems a bit odd. It's not like I've done poorly in bio either- I finished #1 out of 100 in my bio class in college.
Statistically, it's possible, but I think it's unlikely, and the problem is that the AAMC isn't transparent at all. What may be a prometric error may never reach the AAMC, so even if they would review it, they probably wouldn't find anything amiss.
There are times for complaining, and I'm going to go that route, but unfortunately it'll probably amount to nothing. Even if it's cliche, I'll gladly blame it on the computers. Heck, when I logged in to prometric, the computer crashed so the lady had to log me in twice. I code computers myself, and I know that bugs do arise, even though they shouldn't. I don't know if prometric or the aamc even reveals their grading methodology, but if they do I could probably find vulnerabilities and maybe posit a theory as to what went wrong.
At the end of the day, if we feel gypped, we can only do what we can, and we may just have to retake it. After all, if it is an anomaly, we can probably do better next time (unless we're cheated again of course). My only problem is that now I'll have a hard time getting into top tier schools. My once-killer app now has a chink in its armor. I worked hard and put in the effort for killer ECs and a solid GPA and now this?

same here... I've been at the top of my class since freshman year. 3.98 science GPA, 3.97 cumulative, and now this? I'm gunning for top schools, and I'm hoping I won't get screened out because of my 6 on verbal.
granted, I do have to work on my other sections as well, but verbal was ALWAYS my highest and it turned out to be my lowest.
To anyone who is calling AAMC, PLEASE let us know what happened. I may join you guys!

I bet one of the admins over there was like I bet $10 that if we take the site down for 3 minutes then the kids on SDN will freak.

That's exactly what they were doing...
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AAMC trolls.

Just wanted to officially join in! Taking the 8 AM test.
Im using SN2'eds method but am a little behind (just finished Gen Chem Chapter 2 today, starting on OCHEM ch. 2 in like 5 minutes.) Playing some catchup but Im supplementing the TBR review with TPR review, so im basically going over everything twice, then doing the TBR passages. I like how TPR is more of a "highlights" review than TBR, so they seem to work well together.
I am a non-trad I guess (graduated college last year) Working full time in a research lab, approximately 50 hrs a week, but Ive managed to get about 5 hrs a day in with MCAT review/passages (1-2 at work and 3-4 at home)
Gonna do all TBR and AAMC FL's as well. Definitely gonna have to double up or forgo a break day here at somepoint to get completely on schedule.
Good luck with the studying everyone!!

hi all, congrats to everyone who got the scores they wanted! to those who didn't, keep studying, keep trying, its definitely possible to make a huge improvement.
I took the test last June (06/17/2010) and got a 23R (7PS, 7VR, 9BS).
My scores this year: 12PS/9VR/11BS for a total of 32R.
If I can make a 9 point jump, so can you.
Good luck with apps everybody!

For all the 2 pmers, what did you think about Physical? I was surprised at how many calculation problems there were!

Good Luck to everyone on this thread! Hope your wildest MCAT dreams come true!
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I was in the same boat three weeks ago.

Maybe they put them in and are planning to release them all at a certain time... say like 3:30 pm or so.
Or maybe we are all just speculating too much! I would love to work at AAMC and read all this lol.

I'm doing the SN2 schedule as well..only on my 2nd week though. I see some 2-a-days in my near future, haha. Where is everyone else?

no kidding. That schedule is REALLY hard to stick to with a full course load + graduating senior with major Senioritis.....Some of those chapters are DENSE and I feel like you have to look over it multiple times not to forget anything. Anyone else having this problem

hi all, congrats to everyone who got the scores they wanted! to those who didn't, keep studying, keep trying, its definitely possible to make a huge improvement.
I took the test last June (06/17/2010) and got a 23R (7PS, 7VR, 9BS).
My scores this year: 12PS/9VR/11BS for a total of 32R.
If I can make a 9 point jump, so can you.
Good luck with apps everybody!

What did you do differently to have that big improvement?

I think because the PS wasn't that difficult, more examinees rushed through the questions and therefore may have missed buzz words and committed more silly errors. I know I did for at least 2 problems...it's all good tho.

This **** is going down tomorrow haha.

Go for the 4 month instead of the 3 month then.

I called the AAMC today and posted what they said on the "6/16 awful VR score" thread if anyone's wondering.

My apologies for yet another post but for those who have submitted their AMCAS application...how long was it "ready for review" ?? My application status has said ready for review since June 28th...

I will check back at around 5:00 pm. If they are not up then I will see you all tomorrow for the big day

no kidding. That schedule is REALLY hard to stick to with a full course load + graduating senior with major Senioritis.....Some of those chapters are DENSE and I feel like you have to look over it multiple times not to forget anything. Anyone else having this problem

Im in the same boat...hardcore senioritis w/ full load. I also work 20 hrs a week but anyways Im following SN2eds 3 month plan. Im almost halfway into it and yes TBR can be quite dense and overwhelming at times.
-Try to get MCAT studying done as early as possible in the day...no matter what type of coursework you have, any brainpower you use during classes or doing homework during the morning/day will be that much less you have to study MCAT stuff. When I study later in the evening it just hardly seems to go as well.
-You will have to read each chapter twice...you will almost always gain at least a few more insights the second time through.
-After you read the chapter, do some EK 1001 corresponding questions to nail down the basics...just reading through the chapter and heading straight into passages will not always go the way you like.
-DO NOT get caught up in your passage scores. The first 2 months of studying is content review so your only goal is to learn the material and you will learn just as much going over wrong answers as you will reading the chapters. TBR passages are difficult, there are times I only get 2 right and punch whatever I can around me.
-Focus on eliminating answers and reasoning through the main concepts to come up with the BEST answer. Sometimes it helps to glance over the questions before reading the passages to get an idea of what info you need to get from the passage. Also, make sure to time yourself for phase 2 and 3 questions...timing is CRITICAL don't be too generous!
-If you have not signed up for an MCAT test date...do it! This will force you to keep up the pace...you should be able to take the June 16 date.
-Make sure to be realistic...most likely you will NOT be able to double up days, its just too much material unless one chapter is short and somewhat easy. Keep a dedicated study place and only study for MCAT there. Take a break day a week and do not study at all.
-Just keep your head down we have invested 4 years into undergrad plus all the multitude of other pre-med requirements and there is no way we can let a bad MCAT score get in the way of our future. Not to mention Im not forkin over another 200$ to go through this madness again.

Hey everyone,
I took the 2 pm test. Walked out of the test center feeling very confident that I crushed the test. Ended up scoring three points lower than my practice test average, but still a very solid score that I'm happy with. Will not be taking the test again.
Score breakdown was even across every section. There has been a lot of talk about studying the day before; I did NOT study, instead went climbing with a good friend and tried to relax and rebalance myself before the test. The morning of, I went over a few problem areas from past practice tests, but nothing crazy, just some light review.
I'll post more specific stuff in the appropriate forums, but in short, I prepared using Kaplan (which I have mixed feelings about and will be reviewing) and spent about 6 months studying at a steady rate. My net improvement over my diagnostic was 8 points.
Congratulations to everyone who got the scores they want, and best of luck to those planning to retake - I'm convinced that with enough tenacity this test can be overcome.

Time has come to an absolute standstill. I should schedule a dentist appointment for July 19, that should speed it back up on track.

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I checked and the system is working for me, but no scores yet!!! I'm going to check around 5 and then call it a day.

This will be a great day

How do we know we didn't accidentally hit VOID?

If you hit void then the THX should state that.

Hi all, I took the 8am test.

The first time I took the exam was last summer and I got a

31 O (12ps, 10 bs, 9vr).

I knew I could do better so I took it last month and got the following:

30 O (13ps, 11bs, 6vr)..I still can't believe I got a 6 in vr..

My cGPA is a 3.8 in Chemical Engineering and I have pretty strong ECs.
I am currently a senior and applying to medical schools right now. So I already invested a ton of money into this whole process.

Do I still have a shot in getting into a medical school with that 6?

Some schools will take the best score from each section on all your exams. So that's a little food for thought.

I have a question if someone could answer it.
I wanted to submit my application even with a 5 in Verbal. The thing I was going to do was send it in just so the schools have the stuff, take it again september, but also I would get a rescore on the MCAT just incase something went wrong since my scores were double figures in the other two sections, and I got a Q in writing.
Is that a bad idea?

Not at all. You have the option of entering a future exam date for the MCAT on your AMCAS application. If you do this, the schools will set aside your file until they receive your final score update. This is what I did. It gives you a chance to get all your Secondaries completed while waiting for your MCAT score to be scored.

My apologies for yet another post but for those who have submitted their AMCAS application...how long was it "ready for review" ?? My application status has said ready for review since June 28th...

I think that's the pre-verification script.

until I read this forum thread (today), I was able to patiently wait for my scores.....
....now here I am refreshing this page every 5 minutes.... g-r-e-a-t

Hey guys. I am new here. this is my first time posting. I am also scheduled to take the 6/16 test at 8AM. I am so scared for this test. I am currently reviewing General Chemistry with EK and Kaplan books and i just have lecture 7, electrochemistry left. I will be going on to Physics today, but i make sure i do 2-3 verbal passages each day from my Kaplan book. Will be getting to the EK verbal strategy soon. I wanted to know where i can get more passage based types like on the MCAT for practice. I want to review everything before i take my first AAMC full length.

Yep, did you read my post a few pages back? 12/12/... 5?
Not PS 12/VR 5/BS 12, which would seem like it could actually happen since verbal seems to be an oddball whereas the two science sections are of similar style, and sciences are more common to each other than they are to verbal.
Clearly I could have missed 3/5ths of the questions, but considering I've never done that poorly on any test in my life (not to mention this was multiple choice and I actually studied for it, which I can't say for a lot of tests) and the lowest BS score I made during practice tests was an 11, this result seems a bit odd. It's not like I've done poorly in bio either- I finished #1 out of 100 in my bio class in college.
Statistically, it's possible, but I think it's unlikely, and the problem is that the AAMC isn't transparent at all. What may be a prometric error may never reach the AAMC, so even if they would review it, they probably wouldn't find anything amiss.
There are times for complaining, and I'm going to go that route, but unfortunately it'll probably amount to nothing. Even if it's cliche, I'll gladly blame it on the computers. Heck, when I logged in to prometric, the computer crashed so the lady had to log me in twice. I code computers myself, and I know that bugs do arise, even though they shouldn't. I don't know if prometric or the aamc even reveals their grading methodology, but if they do I could probably find vulnerabilities and maybe posit a theory as to what went wrong.
At the end of the day, if we feel gypped, we can only do what we can, and we may just have to retake it. After all, if it is an anomaly, we can probably do better next time (unless we're cheated again of course). My only problem is that now I'll have a hard time getting into top tier schools. My once-killer app now has a chink in its armor. I worked hard and put in the effort for killer ECs and a solid GPA and now this?

Ya. I agree 100% with the idea that the whole process needs to be more transparent. I mean, if they showed me my test, I really couldn't say anything, but instead I have this lingering feeling that there could have been a computer bug/some sort of misalignment with the questions/some sort of swap with other test takers answers/etc. What really eats at me is the fact that I should NOT have done worse than my first attempt. Based on that alone, I have absolutely no respect for the integrity of this test. I now know, for a goddamn fact, that this test is flawed, and all it took was comparing my two scores.


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Bahahaha. Once I take my test and subsequently reactivate my facebook, this will be my profile pic.

until I read this forum thread (today), I was able to patiently wait for my scores.....
....now here I am refreshing this page every 5 minutes.... g-r-e-a-t

I feel ya on that! ugh.

Just wanted to officially join in! Taking the 8 AM test.
Im using SN2'eds method but am a little behind (just finished Gen Chem Chapter 2 today, starting on OCHEM ch. 2 in like 5 minutes.) Playing some catchup but Im supplementing the TBR review with TPR review, so im basically going over everything twice, then doing the TBR passages. I like how TPR is more of a "highlights" review than TBR, so they seem to work well together.
I am a non-trad I guess (graduated college last year) Working full time in a research lab, approximately 50 hrs a week, but Ive managed to get about 5 hrs a day in with MCAT review/passages (1-2 at work and 3-4 at home)
Gonna do all TBR and AAMC FL's as well. Definitely gonna have to double up or forgo a break day here at somepoint to get completely on schedule.
Good luck with the studying everyone!!

We have the same schedule in terms of work, sending positive to you! I know we will do well despite the challenges that we may encounter.

PS-10 VR-10 BS- 11 - 31R
this was right around my average and i definitely did better on PS than i thought I would (i took the 8 am test). I have a 3.49 GPA and clinical and research experience.
i'm just not sure if i should retake this test or not. i know that second time I'll definitely approach the test differently but do i have a chance with the stats i have?? i'd love some feedback/opinions!

Are you applying this cycle? If so, don't retake. A 31 is a pretty solid score. Chances are, you won't be able to boost your score up by an appreciable level (3+) in a month, and you'll just end up hurting yourself by pushing back the date that your application will be complete. Besides, you never know if you'll end up getting screwed in a random section like some of your fellow 6/16ers.
If you're not applying until next year and you're positive that you can score MUCH higher, it might be worth a shot.

Good Luck to everyone on this thread! Hope your wildest MCAT dreams come true!
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I was in the same boat three weeks ago.

... and may the MCAT dreams that come true be the GOOD ones!

until i read this forum thread (today), i was able to patiently wait for my scores.....
....now here i am refreshing this page every 5 minutes.... G-r-e-a-t

+1

Did any of you guys who scored 32+ studied the day before?
I know many people advice not to study - but I still have my doubts.

I studied all day until about 6 in the evening after which I just kept staring at a 3' X 4' dry erase white board on which I had kept jotting down the things that kept eluding me through out my practice tests.

A day before they release, and there's already 172 viewing this thread
Good luck guys! Hope you all get the score you were hoping for

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