Anyone did the indiana state university LPN to BSN online? Or have any info.?

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I'm thinking of getting my RN online and looking at doing it through excelsior college or indiana state university? Alot of people been giving advice about excelsior but does anyone know anything about indian state university and there program?

I just checked my emails and their titles are TCN liason assistants but they actually do work at the university. And I did not go through the college network.
It may be that ISU has hired more employees to work with potential students. I am confused why the nursing dept at ISU would have "TCN liason assistants" who work at ISU. Interesting.

Again, as I have stated before, there is some kind of connection between ISU a state institution and the private publisher, TCN. IMO the quality of the ISU program is denigrated by their association with TCN. However, not having contact with TCN does not mean that ISU has not provied your information to TCN. ISU does not hestitate provide potential student info to TCN.

I would like to have any information on these schools. I'm a new LVN graduate.

I requested info from the today, all I really know is that they are NLN accredited and that my states BON recognizes there program....what ever kind of info I get, I'll keep you posted! Good Luck!

Both schools have websites where you can get information. If you call to ask questions of ISU, however, you will be directed to contact a College Network salesperson.

@caliotter3, I've been reading on previous threads that TCN should be avoided. Do you have experience with ISU? I'll more than likely just tell ISU that I'm not going to deal with TCN if it's not needed. I don't need a middle man, I just want to get my RN and be done with school for awhile.

If you are interested in ISU, you do not need TCN. If you need prerequisites you can get them at a community college or some other accredited college. Before you can be admitted to ISU there are 4 challenge courses you must pass. You do not need to buy the TCN study guides. There are many published study guides by Lippincott that will prepare you for the test as well as reading some RN NCLEX test books (that have the rationales and review chapters). The cost of all the guides and NCLEX books (should you go that way) is a fraction of the $2000 it would cost for the TCN 4 study guide books.

Could ladyinscrubs please post the study guides by Lippincott . Thanks

Hi Everyone,

I am currently a BSN student with ISU, and I must say my experience has been great. I want too say too those who are not good at taking online classes this program is NOT for you. I am finishing up my first semester now, I took two classes LVN to RN as well as Physical Assessment class. It was alot of work, but all it takes is time management and you can get the work done.

You must have all your pre req complete before applying to the nursing program then you must complete the 4 nursing modules as well as the ATI TEAS exam. All the information is on on the ISU Nursing web site.

Could ladyinscrubs please post the study guides by Lippincott . Thanks
You can use any good study guide. Pearson and Lippincott have coursr study guides. Go to the ISU LVN to BSN website and look at the challenge courses you must test out of. Those are the courses you will need to study for.

I used "How to get A's in____" (fill in the course that you want to review). I also suggest getting a good RN NCLEX book that not has questions with rationale but also has a review.

Studying the Pearson or Lippincott review books, the RN NCLEX book will prepare you for the challenge exams that must be passed before you can be tenatively entered into the program and take the Transitions class and the Assessment class.

Hi Everyone,

I am currently a BSN student with ISU, and I must say my experience has been great. I want too say too those who are not good at taking online classes this program is NOT for you. I am finishing up my first semester now, I took two classes LVN to RN as well as Physical Assessment class. It was alot of work, but all it takes is time management and you can get the work done.

You must have all your pre req complete before applying to the nursing program then you must complete the 4 nursing modules as well as the ATI TEAS exam. All the information is on on the ISU Nursing web site.

Kgeiger1 and I are of the same mind. Distant learning is not for everying. It is rigorous and requires committment. You are in nursing school; just because you are in distant learning does not make the program any easier. In fact, it may be even more rigorous.

The decision to enter into the program should not be taken lightly. You must have time to study, do all the assigned reading work, papers, and exams...every week. The program expects that you are a nurse, have previous nursing knowledge, and able to do the same work as any regular BSN student in the same class in the ISU campus.

Welcom aboard KG1.

Thanks for the input and info on ISU's LVN/LPN to BSN program. I am BSN student at ISU and am just finishing my first semester. The program is very good. As others have said, it does require a lot of self discipline and use of goof time management skills. I think the eduction is very similar, if not the exact same, as what you would receive in a 'in class' BSN program. The only flaw with the program, from my experience, is that you must maintain your LPN or LVN license while completing clinicals. When I started ISU's BSN program I was living in CA and working as a LVN. I received my LVN license through CA's military challenge option, as I was a prior Corpsman. I've recently move to WI, and found out that WI will not let me transfer my LVN license here, because I did not attend an accredited LPN/LVN program. So now, I may not be able to continue in ISU's program because I will not be able to get a WI LPN license. This seems very odd to me. If was not a LPN/LVN and applied to any BSN program as a generic entry student, I would participate in clinicals as a BSN student, not as a LPN/LVN. Very frustrating to say the least.

Hello,
Im completing the prereqs as what ISU wants but I am having difficulty trying to find a proctor for exams. Does anyone know of a proctor service that is provided in California?
BTW, its great to hear that you are enjoying the program so far, gives me confidence that I am going in the right direction. I also had distance learning in the past and am very comfortable with it.

@caliotter3, I've been reading on previous threads that TCN should be avoided. Do you have experience with ISU? I'll more than likely just tell ISU that I'm not going to deal with TCN if it's not needed. I don't need a middle man, I just want to get my RN and be done with school for awhile.
I was interested in ISU, but when I called to talk to someone about it and have my questions answered, I was (almost rudely) referred to TCN, even when I insisted that I had no desire to deal with TCN. That made my decision for me. I haven't looked at ISU since, but I still get inundated with ISU and TCN spam email.

I was interested in ISU, but when I called to talk to someone about it and have my questions answered, I was (almost rudely) referred to TCN, even when I insisted that I had no desire to deal with TCN. That made my decision for me. I haven't looked at ISU since, but I still get inundated with ISU and TCN spam email.
Just wondering, to whom did you settle for an LVN to RN program?

I have contacted ISU lately and so far, they have been informative. The only thing that they mentioned is that if you failed the challenge exams, you would have to go through ISU, which could be a deal breaker.

I have most of the prereq's, just have to take chem, but looking for a school in Northern Cali.
Like almost everywhere else, wait lists here are ridiculous, and as time goes by, I fear that there will be additional
requirements (ie. more classes, recentcy requirements) that might be tacked on.

I am currently looking at WGU. Unlike ISU, they provide clinical placements. And there is no mention of TCN anywhere on their website or printed info.

Hello,
Im completing the prereqs as what ISU wants but I am having difficulty trying to find a proctor for exams. Does anyone know of a proctor service that is provided in California?
BTW, its great to hear that you are enjoying the program so far, gives me confidence that I am going in the right direction. I also had distance learning in the past and am very comfortable with it.
There are colleges who will proctor your exam. There is a distant learning association that will provide the names of the schools and/or facilities who will proctor. These schools and their proctors charge anywhere from $25 an hour or $35-50 for the entire test. Some will do it for a nominal price. If all else fails, go to Pearson. They will be more than willing to take your money. Libraries often proctor--but it must be by someone on their staff. Finding a proctor for your exams sounds daunting but it is not that difficult.

Hope this helps

Just wondering, to whom did you settle for an LVN to RN program?

I have contacted ISU lately and so far, they have been informative. The only thing that they mentioned is that if you failed the challenge exams, you would have to go through ISU, which could be a deal breaker.

I have most of the prereq's, just have to take chem, but looking for a school in Northern Cali.
Like almost everywhere else, wait lists here are ridiculous, and as time goes by, I fear that there will be additional
requirements (ie. more classes, recentcy requirements) that might be tacked on.

If you fail a challenge exam, you can retake it (and pay another fee) once again. If you fail it at that time, ISU states that you MUST buy TCN book that corresponds to the failed exam. The cost is about $500 for the corresponding E-book. Most people prepare before signing up to take the exam and do fine.

I was interested in ISU, but when I called to talk to someone about it and have my questions answered, I was (almost rudely) referred to TCN, even when I insisted that I had no desire to deal with TCN. That made my decision for me. I haven't looked at ISU since, but I still get inundated with ISU and TCN spam email.
Regretfully I don't think you where on the actual indstate.edu site.
The college network has a site that has the name Indiana State posted all over it but the contact info is all TCN.
I found the site to be a little deceptive since it is not obvious that it isn't the ISU website.
When I requested info from the actual Indiana State University site I just got an email from them and no marketing from TCN.

Dennis

Oh, I was on the phone. And I made certain it was ISU, I was talking to. Why I called them. I made certain that it was not TCN I was talking to. That is why I was so surprised that they would so rudely refer me to TCN.

Thanks for the input and info on ISU's LVN/LPN to BSN program. I am BSN student at ISU and am just finishing my first semester. The program is very good. As others have said, it does require a lot of self discipline and use of goof time management skills. I think the eduction is very similar, if not the exact same, as what you would receive in a 'in class' BSN program. The only flaw with the program, from my experience, is that you must maintain your LPN or LVN license while completing clinicals. When I started ISU's BSN program I was living in CA and working as a LVN. I received my LVN license through CA's military challenge option, as I was a prior Corpsman. I've recently move to WI, and found out that WI will not let me transfer my LVN license here, because I did not attend an accredited LPN/LVN program. So now, I may not be able to continue in ISU's program because I will not be able to get a WI LPN license. This seems very odd to me. If was not a LPN/LVN and applied to any BSN program as a generic entry student, I would participate in clinicals as a BSN student, not as a LPN/LVN. Very frustrating to say the least.
This is because you will be acting as your own pre-ceptor and doing clinicals on your own. If you were a student, you would be doing it on the instructor's license... Are CA/WI compact states? If so, your CA license would/should be sufficient to practice under in WI. That is pretty crappy that they won't recognize it because it was done through the military programming and not a "college." Have you contacted the board directly? There may be some sort of provision if you hand in your military documentation, they usually do for military.

I know this is an "out there" suggestion, but one I am sure you are used to since you were military (I am a military spouse), and one you may have thought of. In the immediate future, if WI won't recognize your license, is there a way to move to another state to get credit for that (LPN school credit) year, because any transition program you go through in WI is going to require you to have your license. Even if you can only do so for a year, you can do an LPN to RN bridge, get your license, then WI will recognize that one as you go on for your BSN.

Good luck. I sure hope you can find a way around that, or that the board will be able to assist you.

Here is the link to the ISU information: http://www.indstate.edu/degreelink/lpntobs/

While they SUGGEST you take the 4 TCN classes, I would NOT! You can clep out, or even take the classes with your community college. TCN charges are astronomical - even if you buy their books on ebay... rediculous. That said, I've known many people who have gone that route, since they are one of only a few that provide online LPN to RN.

I was so excited to find ISU... and find a way around TCN. But, looking into it, it actually got me motivated enough to start with my pre-reqs both online with another community college and in-class classes with my community college. One thing led to another and I will be starting my local college bridge program for the RN.

In my circumstance, it is more convenient, easier (no worry finding proctors or finding my own clinical sites), and more cost effective (instead of 2 years, I will grad in 1, have my RN degree so, I will be getting paid as an RN while I finish up with my BSN) to just go now and get my RN done straight away.

Good luck!!

Regretfully I don't think you where on the actual indstate.edu site.
The college network has a site that has the name Indiana State posted all over it but the contact info is all TCN.
I found the site to be a little deceptive since it is not obvious that it isn't the ISU website.
When I requested info from the actual Indiana State University site I just got an email from them and no marketing from TCN.

Dennis

Dennis, just google Indiana State University+LPN to BSN nursing
that should get you to the ISU nursing dept website

I am just about finished with my LPN program. TCN was at the hospital I was doing clinicals at, and they gave me a bunch of paperwork. I then did some research and found out it was a lot cheaper to just deal with ISU directly. I emailed them and this is what I was sent:

http://www.indstate.edu/bacc-comp-ns...am-summary.doc

The info you received is accurate. However, I do wish TCN would put the following in bold

"ISU has established a partnership in education with The College Network (TCN) to offer this progressive Bachelor of Science in nursing program for busy nurses.

for several colleges and universities and is headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana. This organization does not award credit or degrees. They offer Comprehensive Learning Modules (CLMs) that prepare students for equivalency examinations for general education courses that they have not previously completed and are not available online through ISU."

The process of entering into the ISU distant nursing program sound daunting. However, the only thing you need to do is: first--apply to the university, which will give your your student ID, and submit your transcripts to admission; second --arrannge for and pass the 4 nursing challenge exams.

Once you have passed these exams, you are required to provide all the documentation to the nursing department--the requirements are outlined. When all the paperwork is completed, and you are accepted into the program by the dept, they will send you a letter inviting you to join the next class. You can accept, decline or postpone and wait another semester.

Essentially, TCN has provided you the same information that is available on the ISU lpn to bsn distant learning site. Again, you do not need TCN to transfer to ISU.

Hi Everyone,

I am currently a BSN student with ISU, and I must say my experience has been great. I want too say too those who are not good at taking online classes this program is NOT for you. I am finishing up my first semester now, I took two classes LVN to RN as well as Physical Assessment class. It was alot of work, but all it takes is time management and you can get the work done.

You must have all your pre req complete before applying to the nursing program then you must complete the 4 nursing modules as well as the ATI TEAS exam. All the information is on on the ISU Nursing web site.

I am just starting with ISU. I have not ordered the study guide materials yet. I was wondering how hard the tests are? Do you still have your study guides and if so, do you want to sell them? Did you have any negative experience with ISU's LPN to BSN? I live in Florida and am also concerned about finding preceptor nurses in my rural location.

I would love if you guys kept us updated as you went through the program. I am completely on the fence about what I should do. I am done with my LPN program in July and start my last Pre-req in August. I am going to try to get into a bridge program for either next may or next august, but if I can get into the BSN program and just knock it out like that, I want to do that.

Was anyone else on the fence about what to do as far as that?

if doing the ISU program how long is it to get your BSN? and how do you do clinicals?

[quote=tipton555]i am just starting with isu.

i have not ordered the study guide materials yet. may i suggest you find all the various threads that deal with isu--there are many. i know i have answered the same questions you have asked and in detail. quickly, you do not need the tcn $525+/- study guides. get a good nursing book, a good recent rn nclex book that has questions & rationals as well as a comprehensive study guide. lippincott has some condensed study guides--get straight a's in....(fill in the subject you want to study..they have a book for it). for each test, make sure you answer the rn nclex book's questions numerous times. you may see those questions again and since the rationals are given to you, you are ahead of the game.
i was wondering how hard the tests are? the challenge exams represent the finals that the regular students would take in the class. the exam is comprehensive and represent the entire coursework. the first two tests are easier; the thrid is the most difficult; the last is in between.
do you still have your study guides and if so, do you want to sell them? they update the study guide editions about once a year so buying one from someone who just took the exam would be good. however, the studyguides are online not a book. most people do not have study guides.
did you have any negative experience with isu's lpn to bsn? i have written about the pros as well as cons about my experience with isu. just because you are taking an on line class, the class is more rigorous. the huge con is tcn. i only used them to buy their overpriced study guides. i controled the experience as i knew i was dealing with a sales representative who got a commission on what he sold me. if you do buy anything from them, take their contract and sleep on it. evaluate it, read all the small print and if you still want to use tcn, then have them come out or send them the signed contract. do not let them pressure you into signing at the initial interview no matter what they promise. they do lie.
i live in florida and am also concerned about finding preceptor nurses in my rural location. i have no answer for you. isu constantly states and do so in writing that they are not responsible for finding clinical sites or preceptors. however, they ask you for names of clinical sites as well as the contact person at the facility. they will do the paperwork and everything else. once you take the first semester, they use the next semester to locate and secure a clinical site and precetpor. i have been told that it is easier to find clinical sites/preceptors in smaller hospitals because other nursing schools normally ignore smaller hospitals.

i would love if you guys kept us updated as you went through the program. kgeiger was in my cohort group for the spring isu class. i don't believe she has posted her experience but i have. you may have to go to the isu distant learning thread for my comments on the first semester.
i am completely on the fence about what i should do. i am done with my lpn program in july and start my last pre-req in august. i am going to try to get into a bridge program for either next may or next august, but if i can get into the bsn program and just knock it out like that, i want to do that. i do not know what state you are located in. some states will allow you to take two clinicals in one semester, other states, i.e., calif., mandate that only one clinical can be taken a semester. there are 6 clinicals as well as other classes. if you take 2 clinicals a semester you will be done fairly shortly--but again, you have general ed classes you must take to graduate.
was anyone else on the fence about what to do as far as that?
the program requires time, time management, money, and pure sweat. everyone has been in your shoes before they decided which direction to go. read as many of the isu posts as you can and you will get an idea about the program. sadly, the other students don't blog about their semester experiences. i plan to blog at the end of each class and because i can only take one clinical class a semester, i will be blogging for a good while.

I am also considering the ISU program, but I am wondering if I could or should clep out of some of the pre reqs required, or should I look for some of these classes online and would any one know where I can or should begin, all info is greatly appreciated

Hi Kgeiger1,
I saw the Phase II modules on ebay for $300. Do you think it's ok to purchase them used? If you went directly thru TCN for them, can you tell me an estimate of what I will be spending? I'm finishing up my prereqs at my community college and hope to start Phase II by next Fall.
Thanks!

Has anyone graduated from ISU from RN or BSN program? and have you been able to find a job successfuly?

For those who are interested in the ISU distant learning LPN to BSN program, go to the distant learning site. There are a great deal of posts tehre about whether or not to buy the expensive study guides, what to do if you do not buy the expensive guides, and the nursing textbooks to sudy from.

I seriously doubt that those who have graduated from the ISU program is still haunting the student AN website.

Hi Everyone,

I am currently a BSN student with ISU, and I must say my experience has been great. I want too say too those who are not good at taking online classes this program is NOT for you. I am finishing up my first semester now, I took two classes LVN to RN as well as Physical Assessment class. It was alot of work, but all it takes is time management and you can get the work done.

You must have all your pre req complete before applying to the nursing program then you must complete the 4 nursing modules as well as the ATI TEAS exam. All the information is on on the ISU Nursing web site.

@Kgeiger1,
I am interested to get into the program next august. I was wondering if you can give me a little advise about those challenge test, since im planning to take them starting this december. Do you think i could use my PN review books to prepare for them. What are their level of difficulty? also for the clinical is stated that we have to look for a preceptor 6 months prior the nursing program start , and some ppl find it realy difficult to even find the list of facilitites they provide to agree and get clinical, What was experience like , anything you could tell me or advise will be appreciate... I really want to get into this program next year.

Do you start clinicals in phase 2 or 3 with isu? Also is there any reason or chance for someone not to get accepted into isu program?

Do you start clinicals in phase in phase 2 or 3 with isu?

I am not that familiar with the terminology of "phase 1, 2 of 3". This is what I know. One you pass all your challenge exams and apply to the program, you are addmitted temporarily. You must pass the transition and the assessment classes before you are admitted to the facility as a student. The assessment class has a lab.
The next class is mental health and it too has a lab.

Also is there any reason or chance for someone not to get accepted into isu program? Sorry, don't know. I am a student and not an ISU admissions counselor.

@kgeiger1,
i am interested to get into the program next august. i was wondering if you can give me a little advise about those challenge test, since im planning to take them starting this december. do you think i could use my pn review books to prepare for them. what are their level of difficulty? also for the clinical is stated that we have to look for a preceptor 6 months prior the nursing program start , and some ppl find it realy difficult to even find the list of facilitites they provide to agree and get clinical, what was experience like , anything you could tell me or advise will be appreciate... i really want to get into this program next year.
have you started taking the challenge exams and if so, how is it going for you?

So I'm not sure what the deal is with ISU. I've been very interested in their LPN-to-BSN program; however, I haven't had any success talking to ISU. I've called several times and either get a busy signal once the voicemail system transfers me or I'm sent to an extension for a "Kimbler" and end up getting the voice mail for a "Cook". That's confusing. Not even sure if I ended up in the right voicemail box. Then, I leave a message (I've YET to talk to an actual human being at ISU) after which I've been bombarded with voicemails and emails from The College Network.

Some people on here have mentioned dealing with ISU directly and not using TCN. How is that even possible? Trying to get to ISU is like trying to navigate through a voicemail system of the federal gov't. I simply cannot seem to get to the people that I want and I'm routinely being fed back to TCN. I even left a voicemail specifying that I'm not interested in talking to the college network yet, but that I want to speak to ISU about their program and then I'll decide if I need the TCN middleman. Never heard back from ISU.

So as appealing as an LPN-to-BSN program that is accepted in most states sounds, I'm suspicious of how smoothly the program with ISU would be. If I can't even speak to someone on the phone BEFORE they get my money, once they've already got it, what can I expect?

I think I'll have to walk away and try someone else's program. I'm really looking at Lamar in Texas now.

so i'm not sure what the deal is with isu. i've been very interested in their lpn-to-bsn program; however, i haven't had any success talking to isu. i've called several times and either get a busy signal once the voicemail system transfers me or i'm sent to an extension for a "kimbler" and end up getting the voice mail for a "cook". that's confusing. not even sure if i ended up in the right voicemail box. then, i leave a message (i've yet to talk to an actual human being at isu) after which i've been bombarded with voicemails and emails from the college network.

some people on here have mentioned dealing with isu directly and not using tcn. how is that even possible? trying to get to isu is like trying to navigate through a voicemail system of the federal gov't. i simply cannot seem to get to the people that i want and i'm routinely being fed back to tcn. i even left a voicemail specifying that i'm not interested in talking to the college network yet, but that i want to speak to isu about their program and then i'll decide if i need the tcn middleman. never heard back from isu.

so as appealing as an lpn-to-bsn program that is accepted in most states sounds, i'm suspicious of how smoothly the program with isu would be. if i can't even speak to someone on the phone before they get my money, once they've already got it, what can i expect?

i think i'll have to walk away and try someone else's program. i'm really looking at lamar in texas now.

you do not need tcn to attend isu. now if you have prerequisites that must be completed, sometimes it is easier to use tcn or use clep to test out of the class--if that option is available. i am not suprised that you have received no information from isu and instead they gave your private informtion to a private, for profit company called the college network. this seems to be the norm for the program. read the other posts here about isu, and you should get some good advice.

now, if they isu, kimber and/or cook will not talk to you, go to the isu lpn to bsn program website. look at the info there. it discusses the requiements for the nursing program and the challenge exams. you must be accepted into the university and must have the gen educatoinal requirements or must take them at isu, clep out, or take them at some other college. to enter the nursing program, you must test out of 4 classes (aka challenge exams). you do not need tcn to study for the program, and isu should provide a study guide as well as a list of the books to study from.

as far as not getting a live person to call you back, what can be said. the quality of the administration is reflected on the people the administration hires. the education the program offers is excellent although it is very rigorous and has so much busy work built in that it is advised to take 1 class a semester. there are some other problems, such as the clinical placements must be obtained by the stuudent.

before you can do anything, apply to the university, get your student id and have your colleges submit formal transcripts so they can be evaluated. only after this is done, can you really know what you need to take to enter into the program. tcn can send out a sales person who will do an evaluation of your transcripts, etc. and advise you what you need to take to enter into the program. you must be aware that this person is called a representative, but is actually a sales person for tcn and gets a cut on what you buy. plus this sales person is not a university counselor and may give you bad advise based on a vested interest. if you do turn to tcn for advice, do not sign up for anything no matter how appealing the inducements are. if you decide to go the expensive tcn route, the availability will be available in a week or a month. sleep on your decision and do some research--then decide. tcn wants your money, the representative wants a split of your money, and you do not need tcn. you have the power. don't let them make you think that tcn is the only way into isu.

, i am in california and i am looking to do a lvn-bsn. i was very interested in the clinical aspect of the program. is it hard to get clinical sites, you say it is provided for us but do we have to wait a great length of time for them? on the website it lists 11 courses for "required nursing courases for hte major" are you stating that people should take 1 of these a semester? meaning 11 semesters to complete?

i am also considering the westcoast university since they are now wasc accredited.

, i am in california and i am looking to do a lvn-bsn. i was very interested in the clinical aspect of the program. is it hard to get clinical sites, you say it is provided for us but do we have to wait a great length of time for them? on the website it lists 11 courses for "required nursing courases for hte major" are you stating that people should take 1 of these a semester? meaning 11 semesters to complete?

i am also considering the westcoast university since they are now wasc accredited.

west coast university - you could buy a house for the cost the tuition they charge. last i heard it was $140,000 and there is no guarantee you will graduate or be employed. if you have the money, it is your choice however remember those student loans are due one you stop taking classes and/or graduate.

i suggest that you or someone open up different isu link(s) on thehealthscience for each of the isu required classes students must take. say if you wanted information about n324 (med surg) you could start a thread and ask for information from students taking that class. if you wanted info about the assessment class, research class, public health, do the same thing. that is the only way you can get specific information from current students and determine whether you want to take one or two classes a semester. i can state that if i had the option, i would take one class a samester--this statement is made by a student with an excellent gpa and other degrees.

, i am in california and i am looking to do a lvn-bsn. i was very interested in the clinical aspect of the program. is it hard to get clinical sites, you say it is provided for us but do we have to wait a great length of time for them? on the website it lists 11 courses for "required nursing courases for hte major" are you stating that people should take 1 of these a semester? meaning 11 semesters to complete?

i am also considering the westcoast university since they are now wasc accredited.

oops, got western university mixed up with west coast. however, the sky high tuition cost is similar. again, for what you would pay for west coast tuition, you could buy a house in some parts of the country and most certainly a condo.
here is the info posted about west coast's califoria tuition. total cost for the lvn to bsn degree program is $117,000. whew, that is a lot of money.
california campuses
program1 degree number of semesters (
full-time2
status
(12 to 18 credits) 3/4-time status ( 9 to 11 credits) 1/2-time status
(6 to 8 credits) less than 1/2-time status total tuition cost (
) - not including additional fees
total estimated program costs (tuition + fees)
nursing lvn to bsn bs 7 $15750 $13125 $10200 $1740
per credit $110250 $116965

I was supposed to start the LVN to BSN program at WCU this January. I was so excited in passing the HESI exam and got my hopes up after waiting to get in to a program for 3 years. Well, what a disappointment. Apparently I qualified for a good amount of financial aid, only to find out that it didn't cover half the cost of tuition. I needed to find a co-signer. They went on to say that 99% of their students used a strong Co-signer for a private loan to cover the cost. Who in their right mind would Co-sign for an $70,000 loan? I know I wouldn't. So they gave me another option. To pay cash! Okay? $2,000 month. Really? That means I would have to work 5/12 hour days to equal 60 hours a week. So when will I have time to study and be successful in the program? I couldn't do it. So now I applied for the LVN to 30 unit option at my local community college. I have to wait till the end of May to find out if I get in or not. Wish me luck.

LadyinScrubs,
Thanks for your reply to my post. I found the info you shared to be very helpful.

Hi LadyInScrubs,

West Coast University manages the process of assigning students to clinical rotations that prepare them for the responsibilities of being an RN- this is not something the student has to set up his or herself. The planning for clinical rotations occurs in advance of the term in which the student will complete that clinical, so generally there is not a delay. As long as you stay on track academically, and meet University and clinical facility policies, you should be able to plan on a graduation date! If you have any questions about clinical rotations, or any other course, you may visit our website or contact one of our campuses.

Thank you.

westcoastuniversity[/b];6255586]hi ladyinscrubs,

west coast university manages the process of assigning students to clinical rotations that prepare them for the responsibilities of being an rn- this is not something the student has to set up his or herself. the planning for clinical rotations occurs in advance of the term in which the student will complete that clinical, so generally there is not a delay. as long as you stay on track academically, and meet university and clinical facility policies, you should be able to plan on a graduation date! if you have any questions about clinical rotations, or any other course, you may visit our website or contact one of our campuses.

thank you.

i appreciate the information that wcu provides clinical rotations for your brick and mortar nursing students. isu does the same for their brick and mortar students. the isu lvn to bsn distant learning program does the same -- that is, california dl students do not arrange for clinical rotations and assignment to those rotations occur in advance of the term, per a mandate by the ca bon when isu got recognized as a dl provider. in california, the isu program is known as the sanoma state university/indiana state university lvn to bsn distant learning program. the cost, for the core nursing program is about $15,000--which does not include gen ed classes.

let's compare apples to apples not to oranges. if west coast univ were a distant learning program authorzed by the ca bon, then we could do a direct comparison, but it is not. nevertheless, the tuition at west coast univ is about 9 times the cost of the tuition for in the ssu/isu distant learning program for ca lvns to bsn students.

I was supposed to start the LVN to BSN program at WCU this January. I was so excited in passing the HESI exam and got my hopes up after waiting to get in to a program for 3 years. Well, what a disappointment. Apparently I qualified for a good amount of financial aid, only to find out that it didn't cover half the cost of tuition. I needed to find a co-signer. They went on to say that 99% of their students used a strong Co-signer for a private loan to cover the cost. Who in their right mind would Co-sign for an $70,000 loan? I know I wouldn't. So they gave me another option. To pay cash! Okay? $2,000 month. Really? That means I would have to work 5/12 hour days to equal 60 hours a week. So when will I have time to study and be successful in the program? I couldn't do it. So now I applied for the LVN to 30 unit option at my local community college. I have to wait till the end of May to find out if I get in or not. Wish me luck.
99% of the students need a cosigner for a $70,000 loan--what about the other $40,000 tuition?

I am certain you are aware, but let me mention: the 30 unit option is exactly the same program, without the prerequisites for the degree. However, once you finish the program you will not graduate nor receive your ADN. You will get a certificate. Plus, you cannot practice outside California with only a 30 unit option certificate. That sounds good now, but with the way jobs are in California, you may be backing yourself into a corner.

If you are interested i can pass on contact info I was given for ISU, for the nursing department. Her name is Stephanie Davis. The # is (812) 237-8963. I called that number and got a live person the first try, so maybe you will too. I have her email too, but I tried to email her but got no response so I would suggest calling first. her email is ": [email protected]

Hope this helps!!

I went back to the 2 year school I got my LPN diploma and they proctored me for $35 for one exam and told me they may be able to work out a deal on the last 3 so I dont have to pay $35 for each exam. I guess I surprised the proctor, I took my mental hlth exam in 35 minutes although I had 3 hours and I passed.

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